The Dobie schedule
Critics, stand aside!
Rich Linde,
6 May 2011
Legendary coach Gilmour Dobie
came to the University of Washington in 1908 and coached nine years.
Because of his unbridled zeal for
winning, Dobie markedly
changed the perception of west coast football, along with the city of
Seattle's.
He'd gone 8-0-0 in his first coaching stint at North Dakota
State, just prior to his takeover season at UW.
In his first season at Washington, the "Sad
Scott," as he has been called, also went undefeated, winning the Pacific Northwest
Intercollegiate Conference championship, a six-team league consisting of Washington,
Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Idaho and Whitman.
Astonishingly, he continued his winning ways for the next eight
seasons -- legendary stuff -- going
undefeated in his 62 games at Washington.
The Dobie record is statuesque:
--
Undefeated in his 62 games at Washington, which is the longest
undefeated streak (59-0-3) for any single coach at any single school
over consecutive seasons in college football.
-- At North Dakota State, Washington and Navy, he coached 71 consecutive
games without a defeat -- also an NCAA record.
-- From 1908 to 1914, he compiled the second longest winning streak (no
losses/no ties) in the history of college football (40 games).
-- The NCAA record for undefeated games at a single school, which stands
at 64, is held by Washington; Gil Dobie coached 97% of those games.
-- Based on his coaching records at North Dakota State, Washington, Navy
and Cornell, it took Dobie fewer games (just 108) to reach 100 wins than
any other coach in the history of college football.
He drew his players, who were
purely amateur at heart, from the same talent pool as his rivals in the
Northwest Conference.
The Dobie difference: his coaching methods.
"There is
one thing about that body of men I feel particularly proud of. They were
strictly amateur. They played because they liked to play and because
they wanted the distinction of making the Washington team. Their
victories were many and they were honest victories. They are justly
proud of their football achievements and need not take a back seat for
the generations to come." -- A quote taken from Gil Dobie's letter to
Wee Coyle, thanking him for arranging his reunion with former players at
Seattle's Olympic Hotel in 1940.
"So can you blame them out in
the golden west for ranking him as the greatest football mentor in
America -- greater than (Percy) Haugton, greater than ('Pop') Warner,
greater than (Amos Alonzo) Stagg, and (Laurence) Bankhart and (Fielding)
Yost and all the others," Frank Menke wrote in December 1916.

Gil Dobie's 1911 UW football team, playing against Lincoln High School at Denny Field / David Eskenazi Collection; Dobie, on the left, is in a crouching position across the field.
(See "Wayback
Machine: Tweeting, 1911 Style")
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Not at all, but according to some
critics, a kicker (an asterisk) should be attached to his record.
Because: The quest for fully
recognizing Dobie's winning record at UW sometimes draws criticism based
on the scheduling of cream puffs or patsies.
Is that a valid criticism?
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Well, Dobie never coached in the SEC.
In my opinion, the criticism is
easily answered by a number of facts relating to that era in college
football. And, that is: (1)
breathers in Dobie's era weren't always easy games; (2) Dobie's record
against NW Conference teams; and (3) the Knute Rockne schedule.
Breathers in Dobie's era weren't
always easy games.
Patsies, as they would be
called today, weren't always easy games in Dobie's era. For instance, Yale beat Notre
Dame 28-0 in 1914; Cornell triumphed over Michigan in 1916, 23-20.
At UW, Dobie played 63%
of his games against teams that would be considered
NCAA Division I, or FBS, caliber today. The schedule his teams played was typical of
college football teams of that era, including Notre Dame's, which is
discussed below.
In 1907, the year before the 30-year
old coach took over at UW, the U. S. S. Nebraska had beaten Washington,
19-6, and Idaho and Seattle High School had each held UW to a scoreless tie,
0-0. So much for pushovers back then.
His two wins over high schools in his
first season at Washington by 22 and 18-point margins are a measure of
the progress he made in his first year as coach, along with winning the
Northwest championship. UW went 4-4-2 in the prior season under coach
Victor Place and its Captain Enoch Bagshaw.
His winning ways continued after he
left Washington in 1916.
Dobie posted three consecutive unbeaten
seasons at Cornell, and was hailed a "miracle worker."
There's no gainsaying the fact that from 1906 through 1923 Gil Dobie had
a firm grip on college football's winning formula, losing only five games in 18 years.
Dobie's record against
NW Conference teams
From 1908-1916, Dobie's winning percentage at
Washington (.976) for all games played readily trumps the combined
percentage of all the other teams in the NW Conference (.538).
Table 1. The winning
percentages for the six teams in the Northwest league from 1908-1916,
for all games played. [Table courtesy of Lynn Borland [Borland]).
|
Team |
Winning Percentage |
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Oregon |
.680 |
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Washington State |
.645 |
|
Oregon State |
.580 |
|
Idaho |
.464 |
|
Whitman |
.222 |
|
Combined percentage for the above |
.538 |
|
Washington |
.976 |
The Rockne Schedule
(or the SEC paradigm)
Of all the newspaper articles I
researched, dating from 1908-1948, none of them criticized Dobie for
playing a "soft" schedule.
However, one writer I encountered, Stan
Grosshandler, wrote the following in a 1997 article titled, "The Rockne
Schedule." (See the College Football Historical Society, Vol., X, No.
II, February 1997)
"Not only was Knute a genius with the
X’s and O’s," Grosshandler writes, "but he was quite canny in putting
together a schedule (at Notre Dame) that was often liberally sprinkled
with breathers, a luxury that none of his successors had. It was obvious
that Knute did not want any surprises on opening day, and he took great
precautions not to get his team ambushed in the first game. He opened
the Notre Dame seasons against Kalamazoo College five straight years and
then had the likes of Lombard, Beloit, Coe, and Loyola (LA).
"In his undefeated season of 1920, Notre Dame beat Kalamazoo, Western
State Normal, Valparaiso and the Michigan Aggies by a combined score of
133-3. The next season, a 10-1 year in 1921, Notre Dame annihilated
Kalamazoo, DePauw, Haskell, and the Michigan Aggies by a 203-18 total
score."
Grosshandler then lists the breathers
Rockne played, which accounted for almost 29% of his games. (His record:
105-12-5; with an .881 winning percentage; 1918-1930).
Accordingly, 37% of Dobie's
opponents at UW fit in that category.
Rockne's other opponents (the tough ones) were distributed over a wider
geographical area than were Dobie's non-breathers, which mainly
consisted of those teams in the NW league.
The point of all this is
that Rockne played his share of breathers, too, and Dobie at Washington
is as deserving of a statue as Rockne, who has been honored in this way at Notre Dame. (Also, see Appendix
A below).
Appendix A:
The
Rockne Schedule (breathers):
Kalamazoo (5)
Lombard (3)
Wabash (2)
Beloit (2)
Mt Union (1)
Coe (1)
Drake (5) Michigan Aggies (4)
Valparaiso (2) Western State Normal (2)
DePauw (2) Butler (2)
Case Tech (1) Morningside (1)
Haskell (1) Loyola of LA (1)
35 games out of 122 (29%)
Taken from an article
written by Stan Grosshandler, in a 1997
article titled, "The Rockne Schedule."
Dobie's
breathers at Washington:
Lincoln
High School (4), Washington High School,
Whitworth (2), Queen Anne High School, USS
Milwaukee, College of Puget Sound (3), Fort
Worden, Everett High School (2), Bremerton
Sailors, All Navy, Aberdeen High School,
Washington Park AC (2), Rainier Valley AC,
Ballard Meteors (2), Bremerton Submarines
24 games
out of 62 (37%)
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Appendix B. The Dobie Record at Washington (59-0-3)
[Corrections to Washington's 1956 media guide, which are in red, are
based on research done by biographer Lynn Borland (see the reference below.)]
1908 (6-0-1)
(9-26) Lincoln HS 22-0; (10-3) Washington HS, 23-5;
(10-17) Whitworth, 24-4, (10-24) Whitman 6-0,
(11-7) Washington State 6-6, (11-14) at Oregon 15-0, (11-28) Oregon State 32-0.
1909 (7-0-0)
(10-9)
Queen Anne HS 34-0; (10-16)
USS Milwaukee,
39-0,
(10-23) Lincoln HS 20-0;
(10-30) at Idaho, 50-0;
(11-6) Whitman 17-0; (11-13) at Oregon State
18-0;
(11-25) Oregon 20-6.
1910 (6-0-0)
(10-8) Lincoln HS, 20-0; (10-15) at College of Puget Sound, 51-0;
(10-22) Whitman
12-8; (11-5) Idaho 29-0;
(11-12) at Washington
State 16-0; (11-24) Oregon State 22-0.
1911 (7-0-0)
(10-2) Lincoln HS, 42-0; (10-14) Fort Worden,
99-0;
(10-21) College of Puget Sound, 35-0;
(10-28) at (Spokane) Idaho, 17-0; (11-4) Oregon State, 34-0; (11-18) at
(Portland) Oregon, 29-3; (11-30) Washington State, 30-6.
1912 (7-0-0)
(9-28)
Everett HS, 55-0;
(10-12) College of Puget Sound, 53-0; (10-19)Bremerton Sailors, 55-0;
(10-26) Idaho, 24-0;
(11-9) at (Portland) Oregon State, 9-3; (11-16) Oregon 30-14; (11-28) Washington State, 19-0.
1913 (7-0-0)
(9-27) Everett HS, 26-0; (10-11) All-Navy, 23-7; (10-18) Whitworth, 100-0;
(10-25) Oregon State 47-0;
(11-1) Whitman,
41-7;
(11-15) at (Portland) Oregon 10-7; (11-27) Washington State, 20-0.
1914 (6-0-1)
(9-26) Aberdeen HS, 33-6; (10-3) Washington Park AC, 45-0;
(10-10) Rainier Valley AC, 81-0; (10-24)
Whitman 28-7; (10-31) at (Albany) Oregon State, 0-0; (11-14) Oregon 10-0;
(11-26) Washington State, 45-0.
1915 (7-0-0)
(10-2)
Ballard Meteors, 31-0; (10-9) Washington Park AC, 64-0; (10-23) at
(Spokane) Gonzaga, 21-7; (10-30) Whitman,
27-0; (11-6) at California, 72-0; (11-13) California, 13-7; (11-25) Colorado, 46-0.
1916 (6-0-1)
(9-30) Ballard Meteors, 28-0; (10-14) Bremerton Submarines, 62-0;
(10-28) Whitman, 37-6; (11-4) at Oregon, 0-0; (11-11) Oregon State, 35-0,
(11-18) at California, 13-3;
(11-30) California,
14-7.
Appendix C:
The Dobie record
(entries in red correct the putative record)
|
School |
Years |
W |
L |
T |
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North Dakota State |
1906-07 |
8 |
0 |
0 |
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Washington |
1908-16 |
59 |
0 |
3 |
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Navy |
1917-19 |
18 |
3 |
0 |
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Cornell |
1920-35 |
82 |
36 |
7 |
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Boston College |
1936-38 |
16 |
6 |
5 |
|
Total |
33 |
183 |
45 |
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Appendix D:
| N |
Fastest Coaches to reach 100 wins |
Games |
| 1 |
Gil Dobie |
108 |
| 2 |
George Woodruff |
109 |
| 3 |
Bud Wilkinson |
111 |
| 4 |
Fielding Yost |
114 |
| 5 |
Knute Rockne |
117 |
| 6 |
Urban Meyer |
118 |
Reference:
[Borland]. Borland, Lynn, "Pursuit of Perfection,"
Tribute Publishing, November 2010. (Gilmourdobie.com
).